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    Can you post a pic a little further away? Hard to see the layout
    Is that a DF top mount kit?

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    Would this still be a factor for the Bottom Mount Kit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black E View Post
    Can you post a pic a little further away? Hard to see the layout
    Is that a DF top mount kit?
    I don't have it in my hands. That's all driven fab sent me. Maybe Ryan has some better pictures. @DrivenFab
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    Quote Originally Posted by iBoost View Post
    Would this still be a factor for the Bottom Mount Kit?
    I'm not sure. From what I've heard it's only an issue with the 1.45 a/r housing.
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    I can't tell from the picture exactly how much clearance you have or don't have, but how about using a banjo fitting - so that it doesn't protrude as far up into the housing - see link below for example:

    http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...6AN++17+degree

    Also impressions on the DF topmount kit or more pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DereksX View Post
    Ok so I haven't updated this for a month now, frankly because there hasn't been much happening. I've been waiting on the turbo kit for a while now and it finally has shipped out. Also, the clearances are now corrected on the block and assembly can resume. We're waiting on some new main bearings to come in since the previous ones were scuffed up from taking so many measurements.

    The turbo kit was delayed because there were some adjustments that needed to be made. One of them being the water line to the turbo. The housing protrudes farther out than others so we're trying to figure out how to go about it. @chetrickerman @Black E @UT_EvoX

    Just to clear up any confustion -

    This fitment issue ONLY relates to the 1.45 housing, which is ONLY the top mount kits. The 1.45 housing is so large, that it actually protrudes back towards the center housing, which caused a fitment issue with the way we run the water lines. We have since went to a banjo on the 1.45 kits, so it's no longer an issue.

    Hope that clears up some confusion.

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    Thanks for clarifying Ryan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by neconeco View Post
    I can't tell from the picture exactly how much clearance you have or don't have, but how about using a banjo fitting - so that it doesn't protrude as far up into the housing - see link below for example:

    http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...6AN++17+degree

    Also impressions on the DF topmount kit or more pics?
    I don't have any pictures of it installed. The hot parts are getting shipped to UT_EvoX who will be installing everything before shipping the engine back to me. I'll have pictures when it's all installed
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    So it looks like you'll have to use the top water port instead, at least on the engine side, and run the water line parallel to the valve cover and down to the water pump pipe. Then the back botom port would need to be ran to the thermostat nipple, run the line behind/under the compressor housing for proper flow when the engine is turned off.
    What does the other side of the CHRA look in respect to the water ports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black E View Post
    So it looks like you'll have to use the top water port instead, at least on the engine side, and run the water line parallel to the valve cover and down to the water pump pipe. Then the back botom port would need to be ran to the thermostat nipple, run the line behind/under the compressor housing for proper flow when the engine is turned off.
    What does the other side of the CHRA look in respect to the water ports?
    I'm not sure. Maybe TJ can help since he has the turbo @UT_EvoX

    Update 12/14/15

    The crank trigger wheel that originally came on the car is a 4 hole/fastener design but the new crank only uses 3 holes/fasteners. So, we're getting one shipped overnight to get moving on the motor. Once we have the new trigger wheel, the short block will be done and then the head and full engine can be put together. Hopefully the engine is done by the beginning of next week if all goes well.

    I also added some pictures of the turbo kit to the first page.
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    Looking good sir, can't wait to see this fire up!

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    After further talking with TJ, we're going to get the crank, pistons, and rods "performance" balanced. For my peace of mind and revving to 9k or more, I think this is a smart decision and will hopefully only set us back a week at most.
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    Yeah I'd like to see everything balanced well beyond factory tolerances. More so to see a report and weights of every rotating component so I can include it in my build records.

    When something is going to spin to 9000+ RPM, you've gotta do everything you can to keep it together as long as possible.

    That said, many engines I've built haven't had weights matched to a fraction of a gram and they've gone on for years without a hitch; I just desire as much life as possible out of something that's going to be pushing 800+ WHP. Every tiny vibration you eliminate is going to make it last that much longer.
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    While youre on the topic, all my rods are 442.1 to 442.5. Is that decent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pistolpete69916 View Post
    While youre on the topic, all my rods are 442.1 to 442.5. Is that decent?
    OMG I thought you were talking about lengths for a second. LOL

    Nah that's fine. The big and small ends could be matched of course but I think that's acceptable.

    To me, internal crank balancing is more important than exact weight matching of components.

    OEM cranks are usually perfectly balanced, but sometimes it warrants additional checking.
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    Yeah lol theyre heavy fuckers i guess

    I took my crank to a random no-name shop and was told it was already "perfectly" balanced. Guy thought the thing was new out of the box (even though it had ~40k on it). Hopefully he wasnt BSing. Car is done just need a fuel system and ceramic coatings.

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    Got the results back the other day from getting the crank balanced:



    Assembly of the short block should be starting soon. Just ordered a set of radials for the car as well. I'll post pics when they come in next week.
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    Gonna rev smooth as hell man; can't wait till I build my motor in a year or two...you guys make me excited.
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    That answered my question about how well-balanced the crank is from the factory. Not bad... fine for a 7000 RPM engine. Not perfect, though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UT_EvoX View Post
    That answered my question about how well-balanced the crank is from the factory. Not bad... fine for a 7000 RPM engine. Not perfect, though!
    What about the 8K RPM range. I did end up buying a new crank when I had the motor built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulliesAndBoost View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by UT_EvoX View Post
    That answered my question about how well-balanced the crank is from the factory. Not bad... fine for a 7000 RPM engine. Not perfect, though!
    What about the 8K RPM range. I did end up buying a new crank when I had the motor built.
    That's a brand new crank btw.
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    I guess perfect requires rotating assembly balance. Including pistons, rings, rods...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mash View Post
    I guess perfect requires rotating assembly balance. Including pistons, rings, rods...
    Yeah that's all done on his components too. Same shop that spins the crank does the material removal on the pistons and rods.

    Rings and bearings I'm not concerned about. I'll still weigh them all for shits, but I bet the weight difference is negligible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BulliesAndBoost View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by UT_EvoX View Post
    That answered my question about how well-balanced the crank is from the factory. Not bad... fine for a 7000 RPM engine. Not perfect, though!
    What about the 8K RPM range. I did end up buying a new crank when I had the motor built.
    According to the balance sheet it had 70 lb of force due to imbalance @ 8000 RPM before balancing. That's not counting the rods and pistons.
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    Now what does that equate to, in terms of longevity or the ability to rev that high? Can PM if me to not cloud up OP's thread.

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