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    H&R TC114 Camber Bolt Alternatives

    H&R is fairly popular on the aftermarket camber bolt scene. I was at my alignment guy today and he recommended a couple of lesser known brands.

    https://www.mcbayperformance.com/14M...IT_p/mp214.htm

    The 14MM Axis Cam by Stempf, part number 41-214 (Made from 12.9 strength steel if that makes a difference)

    and

    https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NCZ2643642

    NCP 2643642

    and

    http://www.spcalignment.com/index.ph...tion&pid=81260

    SPC-81260 (Also made from 12.9, seems like these three are copies of each other)

    Seems like they both have 0 to 1.75 degrees of adjustment.

    Is there any reason I would want to use one 1.75* bolt in the top hole and one 1.75* bolt in the bottom hole instead of the one 3* H&R bolt in the top hole?

    Do the H&R's really have that much adjustment range compared to the alternatives?

    Almost forgot about the Rock Auto alternatives:

    QUICK STEER K90474
    Front; 14mm Bolts; Single Offset; Minus 1-3/4 To Plus 1-3/4 Degree $4.41

    MAS AK90399
    Front Lower Strut Mount;1-3/4 Degree to +1-3/4 Degree of Camber; Single Offset; 14mm Bolt (Only 18 Remaining) $6.08

    MOOG K90474 Cam Bolt
    Front; 14mm Bolts; Single Offset; Minus 1-3/4 To Plus 1-3/4 Degree $10.33

    ACDELCO 45K18036 {#88914256} Professional; Kit Includes 1 Bolt
    Front; w/ 14 mm Bolts; Single Offset Adjuster; From Minus 1-3/4 to Plus 1-3/4 Degrees of Change $11.55

    MEVOTECH MS60005 Supreme
    Front; 14mm $20.79
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    You are going to change tire to strut clearance by adjusting camber at the bottom. Use the strut camber plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorlab View Post
    You are going to change tire to strut clearance by adjusting camber at the bottom. Use the strut camber plates.
    He's right you know...
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    I'm maxed out........

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    What's your current camber and what's your target?
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    -2.5

    My alignment guy says that's the most that my current setup and offset will allow.

    When I get +22 wheels, I'll be aiming for -3.6.

    I may go to +20, but will wonder if -2.5 is enough to get them within the rear fender, with no rub. 10" wide, 275 RE71R

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    We're talking rear? You should get adjustable arms. I could be completely misunderstanding...
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    You'll actually be fine. We only have to do dumb camber in the rear with 10.5's, 275's, and low offset.
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    He is talking front, but also concerned with fitment in rear if he goes too low an offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT_EvoX View Post
    We're talking rear? You should get adjustable arms. I could be completely misunderstanding...
    Quote Originally Posted by razorlab View Post
    He is talking front, but also concerned with fitment in rear if he goes too low an offset.
    Life is full of hard choices.

    Just came through a highway onramp at WOT.....right at the end, there was a bump, and there was loud audible rub on the compression from the rear right. Grr.....I would've thought -2.0 would've been enough, but maybe I will bite the bullet and do an inner fender lining roll. I really wanted to stay on an unmolested stock body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorlab View Post
    He is talking front, but also concerned with fitment in rear if he goes too low an offset.
    @razorlab @UT_EvoX @HispanicPanic @Hiboost

    If I roll the inside of the rear fenders only to help with clearance, what is my minimum offset that I could use to clear the fenders with no rubbing on compression on the freeway? I've tested and calculated maximum offset to be +26, but I want to widen the track as much as possible without rubbing in the rear.

    18x10, 275/35/18 RE71R (looks like I'll be sticking with this tire unless something crazy comes out next year)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by razorlab View Post
    He is talking front, but also concerned with fitment in rear if he goes too low an offset.
    @razorlab @UT_EvoX @HispanicPanic @Hiboost

    If I roll the inside of the rear fenders only to help with clearance, what is my minimum offset that I could use to clear the fenders with no rubbing on compression on the freeway? I've tested and calculated maximum offset to be +26, but I want to widen the track as much as possible without rubbing in the rear.

    18x10, 275/35/18 RE71R (looks like I'll be sticking with this tire unless something crazy comes out next year)
    I've done +12 on the rear with 18x10.5. I don't think u can fit much more than that. It was on the 295/30 which is a much shorter tire than the 285/35. I also think I rolled the rear to the maxx

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    18x10.5 +15 clears the rear fenders at around -2.2* camber using 285/35-18 tires. I say around because the Hankook R-S3's would hit in a few places until I did a full pull and roll of the lip on the rear fenders. You really can't tell it was done but the key is to take your time and heat the paint while doing the work. Currently I use 275/35-18 on the 18x10.5 +15 wheels and they still seem to stick out a few mm in the rears but as the suspension moves up they fold inside the wheel wells nicely without issues thanks to the camber. Maybe 18x10.5 +22 is where you want to be to get good inside clearance and still tuck within the rear fenders for most tires without too many hassles. 18x10 +22 should keep the sidewalls more vertical (about 6mm narrower on each side of the wheel) but it's really the tire size of 275/35-18 that will dictate what will fit and that varies a bit by brand.
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    Rules say I canít pull either, only roll the inside lip.

    +22 without pulling? Or +20, +15? 275, 285, 295? 10 or 10.5?


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    Alternative:

    275/35/18 RE-71R on 18x10,+22
    or
    295/20/19 Kumho V720 ACR on 19x10.5, +15 with a 0.18s per 60 second time attack penalty?

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    +22 on a 10.5 is the minimum offset you can have without contacting your shocks on a 285 tire. a 10 inch rim would buy you like maybe 5 offset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HispanicPanic View Post
    +22 on a 10.5 is the minimum offset you can have without contacting your shocks on a 285 tire. a 10 inch rim would buy you like maybe 5 offset.
    We measured at +26 on a 275, 10Ē tire to give 2mm of clearance.


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